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笑面虎(smiletiger1220)

2011/08/03 00:44:29

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說到隔音 真是怪了 😞

Car & Driver 的評價反而是說車內寧靜度極為優秀,內裝用料升級,車內空間增加,舒服

01也有朋友去試駕 比過往的八代安靜 但不確定是否為新車的關係

Consumer Reports的評價還真是特別

本田也發表對Consumer Reports的官方回覆: See it after the break at the end of CR's press release.


"內裝用料升級"講得應該是那LX標配螢幕和整體來說"精緻化"(像三星電視設計那樣給人迷濛的高級感,遠遠看的話),

行車比較安靜是肯定的,實際上這也是8代Civic唯二需要處理的問題(另一個是VSA(車身穩定系統)沒有標配)

在何況那一篇Car & Driver (C&D)是"Short Take",內裝細節大概只是走馬看花留個印象而已.

另外不要忘了Consumer Reports(CR)的車是和經銷商買的,不像C&D的車是車廠提供的(組裝品質在這種車上通常"恰好"特別優).

在缺點上C&R也毫不客氣的批評了懸吊上的退步和車格的流失,在另一篇C&R的Focus SE VS. Civic EX的文章裡面,

Civic EX被評路人,軟調,無回饋,越來越像林肯(美國陸行船精神代表)

總之,我以一個05 Accord V6 6速手排六年車主的角度,又何嘗不是一個Honda愛好者,但看到Honda為了討好美國人自己也開始猛吃起司,真是讓我不捨+心疼,真正希望Honda回歸到性能本質,就只能讓這種迷失的Honda車款賣得很差,才能幫助Honda離開Toyota化與邊緣化.

另外Honda對於CR的回應我也看過了,只是篇無意義的回應文而已.

總結講"我不同意Consumer Report的說法(請用醬爆的語氣),請大家把焦點放在CR擠出來(CR會幫爛車擠優點來寫)的優點,缺點就不要看了(回應裡一個字也沒有提到CR提出的缺點),而且我"相信"我們的車會更耐用喔(籠統) =.=+"

最讓我火大的是,這篇文章是指懸吊,剎車都不重要,只有撞擊測試重要(何況現在IIHS新車哪輛都撞得很好,新規格的NHTSA撞擊測試才是難關,但9th Civic還沒去撞NHTSA),真是讓我對Honda的墮落看傻了眼呢 (何況Honda對於CR的文章解讀也頗有斷章取義之嫌)~~

引用Honda的回應
Statement from American Honda Motor Co., Inc. 8/1/2011:

In a broad sense, we disagree with Consumer Reports' findings. Without question, the small sedan segment is more competitive than ever. In virtually every way, the completely redesigned 2012 Civic is a step forward. The new Civic excels in areas that matter to small-car customers, including fuel efficiency, safety, and reliability. Among the Civic's greatest competitive strengths, is a smooth and efficient powertrain that, in Consumer Reports testing returned, "... an impressive 30 mpg overall on regular fuel and 47 mpg on the highway." Also noted in Consumer Reports findings, the Civic excels in the area of safety, with a long list of important features standard on all trim levels, and a class-leading 'Top Safety Pick' rating from IIHS. Lastly, the Civic has a stellar reliability history with Consumer Reports, and we are confident that the new Civic will be a reliability leader as well.

NEW西班牙國家隊!(singal303)

2011/08/03 14:20:22

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回應 singal303 (singal303) 所寫


說到隔音 真是怪了 😞

Car & Driver 的評價反而是說車內寧靜度極為優秀,內裝用料升級,車內空間增加,舒服

01也有朋友去試駕 比過往的八代安靜 但不確定是否為新車的關係

Consumer Reports的評價還真是特別

本田也發表對Consumer Reports的官方回覆: See it after the break at the end of CR's press release.


"內裝用料升級"講得應該是那LX標配螢幕和整體來說"精緻化"(像三星電視設計那樣給人迷濛的高級感,遠遠看的話),

行車比較安靜是肯定的,實際上這也是8代Civic唯二需要處理的問題(另一個是VSA(車身穩定系統)沒有標配)

在何況那一篇Car & Driver (C&D)是"Short Take",內裝細節大概只是走馬看花留個印象而已.

另外不要忘了Consumer Reports(CR)的車是和經銷商買的,不像C&D的車是車廠提供的(組裝品質在這種車上通常"恰好"特別優).

在缺點上C&R也毫不客氣的批評了懸吊上的退步和車格的流失,在另一篇C&R的Focus SE VS. Civic EX的文章裡面,

Civic EX被評路人,軟調,無回饋,越來越像林肯(美國陸行船精神代表)

總之,我以一個05 Accord V6 6速手排六年車主的角度,又何嘗不是一個Honda愛好者,但看到Honda為了討好美國人自己也開始猛吃起司,真是讓我不捨+心疼,真正希望Honda回歸到性能本質,就只能讓這種迷失的Honda車款賣得很差,才能幫助Honda離開Toyota化與邊緣化.

另外Honda對於CR的回應我也看過了,只是篇無意義的回應文而已.

總結講"我不同意Consumer Report的說法(請用醬爆的語氣),請大家把焦點放在CR擠出來(CR會幫爛車擠優點來寫)的優點,缺點就不要看了(回應裡一個字也沒有提到CR提出的缺點),而且我"相信"我們的車會更耐用喔(籠統) =.=+"

最讓我火大的是,這篇文章是指懸吊,剎車都不重要,只有撞擊測試重要(何況現在IIHS新車哪輛都撞得很好,新規格的NHTSA撞擊測試才是難關,但9th Civic還沒去撞NHTSA),真是讓我對Honda的墮落看傻了眼呢 (何況Honda對於CR的文章解讀也頗有斷章取義之嫌)~~

引用Honda的回應
Statement from American Honda Motor Co., Inc. 8/1/2011:

In a broad sense, we disagree with Consumer Reports' findings. Without question, the small sedan segment is more competitive than ever. In virtually every way, the completely redesigned 2012 Civic is a step forward. The new Civic excels in areas that matter to small-car customers, including fuel efficiency, safety, and reliability. Among the Civic's greatest competitive strengths, is a smooth and efficient powertrain that, in Consumer Reports testing returned, "... an impressive 30 mpg overall on regular fuel and 47 mpg on the highway." Also noted in Consumer Reports findings, the Civic excels in the area of safety, with a long list of important features standard on all trim levels, and a class-leading 'Top Safety Pick' rating from IIHS. Lastly, the Civic has a stellar reliability history with Consumer Reports, and we are confident that the new Civic will be a reliability leader as well.


感謝翻譯 🙂

美國陸行船精神代表 這個比喻真好 😆
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