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| 不管是油門被踏墊卡住 or 機械故障,有BOS(煞車優先系統)就對了!🙂 希望所有廠牌/車種都標配這救命工具😍 | |||
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回應 firepro (鄰居) 所寫+1~人命關天啊
凡自高的、必降為卑．自卑的、必升為高。
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許多車禍受害者家屬和汽車顧問指出，豐田引擎的電子系統可能是事故元凶，豐田則堅稱電子系統並無問題。 豐田發言人表示，豐田自今年3月以來共接獲2000件暴衝申訴，檢查「事故資料紀錄器」的資料顯示，事故原因包括踏板卡住、踏板不靈活、車內有異物及誤踏踏板等。發言人表示，這些事故「十之八九」是因誤踩油門踏板而未踩煞車造成。 消費者團體Public Citizen榮譽主席、前NHTSA主管克雷布魯克，則批評將暴衝歸咎駕駛人的說法「荒謬」，呼籲主管單位仔細調查汽車電子系統。 | |||
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恕刪部分引文
個人也覺得相關單位主動調查電子油門系統的好
但當然
肇事者的心理/心態不管如何往往在心理上趨向於推責他人為潛意識的心態
我被酒駕的人撞的時候, 他還說自己沒喝酒+號誌是綠燈...😰
凡自高的、必降為卑．自卑的、必升為高。
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這些事故「十之八九」是因誤踩油門踏板而未踩煞車造成。 簡單說~~ 剎車優先系統也發揮不了作用 | ||||||||||||
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周爸好~
文底的意思應該是
如果有加裝煞車優先系統, 在誤採油門或油門卡死時, 踩踏煞車時, 倘若煞車優先系統作動時
是可以避免的爆衝的
但大部分的人員並沒有踩踏煞車啟動煞車優先系統.
所以發揮不了作用這句話並不是文底的意思
凡自高的、必降為卑．自卑的、必升為高。
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那時候不曉得是不是Denso的?還是哪家的油門? 另外, 16年前有電子油門系統了嗎? | |||
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try: electronic throttle control
we always pursue, rarely ponder, and never process, too bad, isn't it?
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這我就不知道了 不過我開的WISH電子油門真的不太好控制 一堆人都在抱怨 😌😌😌 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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也是Denso的嗎?
凡自高的、必降為卑．自卑的、必升為高。
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這裡有寫，是機械問題，非電子問題： 美交通部官員及太空中心（NASA）工程師表示，政府先前所認定加速踩板與汽油踏板附着，在車墊上形成陷阱，這二項機械上的瑕疵，是目前所知Toyota汽車發生暴衝的原因，並導致Toyota汽車大量召回修復。 | ||||||||||||
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加速踩板與汽油踏板附着，在車墊上形成陷阱
白話文翻譯是不是就是說腳踏墊卡住油門
🙂
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周爸好~ 文底的意思應該是 如果有加裝煞車優先系統, 在誤採油門或油門卡死時, 踩踏煞車時, 倘若煞車優先系統作動時 是可以避免的爆衝的 但大部分的人員並沒有踩踏煞車啟動煞車優先系統. 所以發揮不了作用這句話並不是文底的意思 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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🙂所以可以不要再每天紅襪隊、紅襪隊了嗎？
we always pursue, rarely ponder, and never process, too bad, isn't it?
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不過我還是要舉手， 那之前豐田在那邊說要更換電子元件是換新年快樂的嗎？🙂 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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聽TOYOTA維修組長說是被老美逼的
誰較TOYOTA把GM幹掉
😀
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既然是阿豆兒的報告，當然看阿豆兒文，比較正確。
先貼再看😆
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/09/opinion/09wed2.html
Editorial
Toyota’s Acceleration ProblemPublished: February 8, 2011
The finding that Toyota’s problems with uncontrolled acceleration were not caused by glitches in its electronic controls is good news for Toyota and the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. But it doesn’t dispel concerns about the weaknesses of the nation’s vehicle safety regulation.
The study by NASA into Toyota’s electronics, which was ordered by Congress last year, confirms traffic safety administration’s original determination that the acceleration problems that led to the recall of nearly eight million Toyota cars and trucks in 2009 and 2010 were mechanical, caused either by gas pedals snagging on floor mats or sticky gas pedals that didn’t retract when drivers released them.
Unintended acceleration has been blamed for 89 deaths, according to complaints fielded by the traffic safety administration. But in a separate study of Toyotas involved in accidents, the agency concluded that most cases of sudden acceleration were probably because of drivers stepping on the gas when they thought they were stepping on the brake.
These findings did nothing to dispel concerns about the frailty of a safety system that relies on an underfinanced regulator that has an enforcement budget of about $18 million and can only impose puny fines with little deterrent power.
(後略)
先貼再看😆
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/09/opinion/09wed2.html
Editorial
Toyota’s Acceleration ProblemPublished: February 8, 2011
The finding that Toyota’s problems with uncontrolled acceleration were not caused by glitches in its electronic controls is good news for Toyota and the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. But it doesn’t dispel concerns about the weaknesses of the nation’s vehicle safety regulation.
The study by NASA into Toyota’s electronics, which was ordered by Congress last year, confirms traffic safety administration’s original determination that the acceleration problems that led to the recall of nearly eight million Toyota cars and trucks in 2009 and 2010 were mechanical, caused either by gas pedals snagging on floor mats or sticky gas pedals that didn’t retract when drivers released them.
Unintended acceleration has been blamed for 89 deaths, according to complaints fielded by the traffic safety administration. But in a separate study of Toyotas involved in accidents, the agency concluded that most cases of sudden acceleration were probably because of drivers stepping on the gas when they thought they were stepping on the brake.
These findings did nothing to dispel concerns about the frailty of a safety system that relies on an underfinanced regulator that has an enforcement budget of about $18 million and can only impose puny fines with little deterrent power.
(後略)
we always pursue, rarely ponder, and never process, too bad, isn't it?
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這我就不知道了 不過我開的WISH電子油門真的不太好控制 一堆人都在抱怨 😌😌😌 | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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電子材料的壽命也有限,還是有BOS 保險點
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豐田 (Toyota, Lexus)：無BOS煞車優先系統(小改Altis有BOS)
日產 (Nissan, 含Infiniti品牌)：有BOS煞車優先系統
本田：無BOS煞車優先系統
三菱：無BOS煞車優先系統
馬自達：無BOS煞車優先系統
福特：除福特日系國產車款外，皆有BOS煞車優先系統。(Focus與Mondeo有BOS，i-Max無BOS)
納智捷：新年式有BOS煞車優先系統
現代：無BOS煞車優先系統
日產 (Nissan, 含Infiniti品牌)：有BOS煞車優先系統
本田：無BOS煞車優先系統
三菱：無BOS煞車優先系統
馬自達：無BOS煞車優先系統
福特：除福特日系國產車款外，皆有BOS煞車優先系統。(Focus與Mondeo有BOS，i-Max無BOS)
納智捷：新年式有BOS煞車優先系統
現代：無BOS煞車優先系統
M-Benz (ML320+B200) CDI 省油/省稅/環保/大扭力
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| 既然是阿豆兒的報告，當然看阿豆兒文，比較正確。 先貼再看😆 http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/09/opinion/09wed2.html Editorial Toyota’s Acceleration ProblemPublished: February 8, 2011 Unintended acceleration has been blamed for 89 deaths, according to complaints fielded by the traffic safety administration. But in a separate study of Toyotas involved in accidents, the agency concluded that most cases of sudden acceleration were probably because of drivers stepping on the gas when they thought they were stepping on the brake. These findings did nothing to dispel concerns about the frailty of a safety system that relies on an underfinanced regulator that has an enforcement budget of about $18 million and can only impose puny fines with little deterrent power. (後略) | |||
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如果信任NYTimes 為質報的前提，這裡面的意思比較接近周爸說的"誤踩"，而比較不是"踏板卡住"之類的。
(有錯請指正)
we always pursue, rarely ponder, and never process, too bad, isn't it?
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周爸好~ 文底的意思應該是 如果有加裝煞車優先系統, 在誤採油門或油門卡死時, 踩踏煞車時, 倘若煞車優先系統作動時 是可以避免的爆衝的 但大部分的人員並沒有踩踏煞車啟動煞車優先系統. 所以發揮不了作用這句話並不是文底的意思 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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調查報告中寫【未踩剎車】...
沒踩...會有效嗎?
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非Denso，是加拿大一家零件廠生產的，
構造方面也有些許不同。
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| 既然是阿豆兒的報告，當然看阿豆兒文，比較正確。 先貼再看😆 http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/09/opinion/09wed2.html Editorial Toyota’s Acceleration ProblemPublished: February 8, 2011 The finding that Toyota’s problems with uncontrolled acceleration were not caused by glitches in its electronic controls is good news for Toyota and the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. But it doesn’t dispel concerns about the weaknesses of the nation’s vehicle safety regulation. The study by NASA into Toyota’s electronics, which was ordered by Congress last year, confirms traffic safety administration’s original determination that the acceleration problems that led to the recall of nearly eight million Toyota cars and trucks in 2009 and 2010 were mechanical, caused either by gas pedals snagging on floor mats or sticky gas pedals that didn’t retract when drivers released them. Unintended acceleration has been blamed for 89 deaths, according to complaints fielded by the traffic safety administration. But in a separate study of Toyotas involved in accidents, the agency concluded that most cases of sudden acceleration were probably because of drivers stepping on the gas when they thought they were stepping on the brake. These findings did nothing to dispel concerns about the frailty of a safety system that relies on an underfinanced regulator that has an enforcement budget of about $18 million and can only impose puny fines with little deterrent power. (後略) | |||
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所以如果美國政府也接受了(當然不然不可能發文)
那台灣這邊1是不同系統的東西2是沒發生類似的事情
那在搞什麼飛機呢?
凡自高的、必降為卑．自卑的、必升為高。
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如果信任NYTimes 為質報的前提，這裡面的意思比較接近周爸說的"誤踩"，而比較不是"踏板卡住"之類的。 (有錯請指正) | ||||||||||||
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電子節氣門卡死的啦
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不會.
煞車優先系統的意思是:
當汽車發生不正常加速，且煞車踏板被踩下時，或是油門和煞車踏板同時被踩下，甚至是動力系統發生故障，電腦系統會啟動煞車優先系統，快速降低動力油門反應，縮短剎車距離，提高煞車效率。煞車優先系統可感應裝設於油門和煞車踏板上的感應器，電腦透過感應器上傳來的訊息作出決定，反應到相關裝置，調節氣門位置，或減少輸送到引擎的汽油量，依不同汽車製造商的設計有所不同.
所以不踩當然沒用.
就像Air Bag. 不會在平常你開車的時候爆開來一樣. 但不能說這樣就沒有SRS.
凡自高的、必降為卑．自卑的、必升為高。
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我只想知道米國那個開ES的警察，是怎麼撞死的 😇😇😇
我是山寨K....
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